Their relationship is stronger than ever in the wake of Joe's death, and the car that Old Joe drove out to the farm is full of silver bars, making them financially secure. With that in mind, and their combined TK abilities, it's possible that Cid will grow up to be a person of great influence, but in a positive way, helping the world rather than breaking it with his gifts and his resources.
Seth tells Joe that the Rainmaker's future ambitions include closing all loops and taking over all mob operations from other bosses, consolidating power in a way that would break the current system.
Because Cid no longer becomes the Rainmaker, that won't happen, which means the old system of several bosses is likely still in place in the future that exists after Joe's death.
The lack of a Rainmaker won't erase organized crime; in fact, it might even strengthen the old way of doing things, but the events set in motion by Old Joe will no doubt still have an impact. In the past, Old Joe still killed Abe and all of his associates, and Joe made the choice of killing himself rather than closing his loop. The bosses in the future will have knowledge of these events, and may adjust the loop closing system accordingly. Perhaps loopers will kill each other's future selves on the same day, closing two loops at once without any conflict of interest.
Perhaps some other system for killing future loopers will be put in place. Perhaps the Kansas City faction will be reorganized or relocated altogether. Whatever the case, the organized crime use of time travel will likely never be the same.
One of the ideas put forth by Looper 's ending is how quickly one man can make a massive change to his world with a single, split-second decision. Joe pulls a trigger and kills himself, and yet the death of a single man has a ripple effect that could reshape not just Sara and Cid's future, but everyone 's. In killing himself, he has just ensured that countless other men he might have killed as a future hitman will be spared. He has ensured that the woman he would come to love as Old Joe will no longer die at the hands of the syndicate.
He has ensured that the Rainmaker will no longer rise and begin taking over all of organized crime, likely saving even more lives. Or has he? Yes, Joe changed the future when he killed himself, and anyone who directly died because of Old Joe's actions is now spared In its own way, Joe's death creates another timeline filled with a different kind of uncertainty.
Yes, his wife lives now, but what other dangers await her? Yes, Sara lives now, but does that mean she'll be spared from ever suffering or dying again? Yes, Cid gets to be cared for by his mother, but does that mean he'll always be free from trauma that will push him to do evil? Joe is, after all, just one man.
Looper is a science fiction film , and specifically a time travel film, but there are big ideas at play beyond time machines and alternate timelines and futuristic assassins trying to reconcile their pasts and futures.
According to director Rian Johnson, the central concern of the story for him was "the power of a parent's love," and indeed it's Sara's love for Cid and how Joe perceives it which sets off the film's endgame, and the timeline-altering decision that Joe makes to save Cid. Thematically, Looper is a story about learning what's really worth saving, and we get to see that through the arc of both Joes. Joe begins as a guy who doesn't seem to care about much other than his own eventual freedom, and grows to understand that there are bigger concerns than his own life, including Cid's future, Sara's love for her son, and the greater future with or without the Rainmaker.
Old Joe lived as an assassin and an addict, then came to understand that the love of his wife was more powerful than any of that, so much so that he was willing to fight beyond his own lifespan to save her.
Joe's ultimate sacrifice is his realization that his own concerns are minimal compared to those around him, and the implications of what might happen if he doesn't take drastic action are worth the sacrifice. This thematic thread, helped along by Joe's final narration, is the perfect dramatic cap to the film's arc.
Even with the limited scope of the story — there are only four main characters, and two of them are the same guy — Looper is a very complex movie simply because it deals with time travel in such an intense way. The film really gets its hands dirty with the concept, telling us a story of men from the past who change the future with the pull of a trigger, and even cut off their own timelines for money.
Oh, he needs more people to help? Then send more mob people from the future! It makes much more sense than letting people from the past learn that time travel will exist and killing then afterwards Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. SE : In an interview with Slashfilm , the director, Rian Johnson, addresses this: Why is it essential for a looper to close his own loop? Improve this answer.
Community Bot 1. Yeah, I think with this film it is best not to bother asking questions as the answers just aren't there. That would seem like a problem — hmmmm. As it's stated it's not really a job for forward thinking people as you can see when each Looper is shown celebrating his loop closing as if it's the biggest promotion possible. The also know for sure when they are going to die which means they never have to worry about it for at least the next 30 years.
For certain individuals Loopers it's sex and drugs and partying non stop until then and that is the best life possible for them. I mean they commit suicide as they have already killed themselves. KevinHowell Also what difference would it make if somebody say X, killed you at year 0 and then 10 years later you kill X, X would have still killed you at year 0 and everything would be fine — hmmmm. This is a good example of how Looper's premise is shaky in terms of logistics -- too many unanswerable questions, such as: Wouldn't it be better to have the FIRST person each looper kills be the looper's future self?
Shiz Z. Yeah, I got another one. Why bother with all the time travel madness in the first place? Joker Joker 1 1 gold badge 6 6 silver badges 10 10 bronze badges. Why the spoiler section when you only repeat what's in the title? Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Improve this answer. Terrance Shaw 2, 2 2 gold badges 17 17 silver badges 24 24 bronze badges. You say that the people who are sent back are not supposed to be identified but the loopers are told when they are to close their loop.
Why not just not tell any of the loopers they are ever going to be killed at all? Then send the older versions back to different loopers to be killed who wouldn't recognise them even if they did take the white bags off? But I suppose then that loopers could possibly wonder about their future selves. They get all this easy money doing a dirty job by a dirty organisation, only to get off scott free and live happily ever after? Loopers are not long term thinkers, but they probably aren't stupid to think they could be so lucky.
In an interview with Slashfilm , the director, Rian Johnson, addresses this: Why is it essential for a looper to close his own loop? Community Bot 1. I want to see the poor looper who sits and waits for his older self to get sent back so he can get his golden payday, but it never comes because he dies in car accident before time travel is invented.
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